PEMF + Red Light

Anything But Mid is hosted by Amy Edwards and Whitney Stropp. Neither host is a doctor and nothing here is medical advice. Lightly cleaned for readability.

Whitney: I'm Whitney.

Amy: And I'm Amy. And it may be midlife, but you are anything but mid. Remember that.

Amy: We're not accepting that.

Whitney: So bossy.

Amy: I'm sorry. Well, I don't want anyone to feel mid.

Whitney: I don't either.

Amy: You know?

Whitney: We shouldn't. None of us should.

Amy: Nope. So, the fact that we're just saying midlife all the time when we know words are powerful, that's fucked up.

Whitney: That's true. That is fucked up.

Amy: I don't like it. So, we're re we're rebranding.

Whitney: But we don't like maxlife, so

Amy: But we don't like maxlife, so we're anything but mid. Just call it anything else.

Whitney: Anything but mid. How are you?

Amy: I'm great, and we I'm even better because we forgot to mention this, but you washed all of our pajamas

Whitney: I did. Did you notice?

Amy: in your special detergent. Dude, it's smelling up my whole house.

Whitney: Right? And this is what's crazy is that that it's it's been like this for like a like I I didn't wash it like this morning. I washed it like a week ago.

Amy: So we mentioned this in the fluorouracil or whatever the hell it's called

Whitney: Cancer cream.

Amy: cancer cream episode, number seven. We talked about your laundry detergent, and put a link in there and it's some special Diva.

Whitney: Diva Glamorous.

Amy: It's expensive.

Whitney: It is not cheap. But you just use a tiny capful and it lasts a long time. And by the way, sure it's toxic.

Amy: I'm sure it is. It looks toxic, actually.

Whitney: It smell it yeah. It smells delicious. And I mean look.

Amy: It smells really nice. It really does.

Whitney: I'm okay with a tiny bit of toxins.

Amy: Yeah. Well, there's no escaping it, so it's just like

Whitney: It's true. Might as well smell good.

Amy: Might Might as well smell fucking great.

Whitney: That's right. You're toxic, might as well smell good.

Amy: Yeah. I've been on a kick with all different perfumes, too. Like, I've been

Whitney: I need a new perfume. I'm still using the perfume that I wore when I was like 16, and now I feel like it smells like a grandma.

Amy: What? What is it?

Whitney: Beautiful by Estée Lauder, and they don't make it anymore.

Amy: It's time to move on. Oh, my god, it's time to move I know that perfume, I used it ages ago.

Whitney: It was very cool when I was 15 and now I'm like, why am I using this?

Amy: You know, I think that I was of the mindset, too, that you pick a scent, and it's your signature scent.

Whitney: Signature. Your signature scent.

Amy: All of a sudden, I have opened up into wearing whatever scent I feel like.

Whitney: We do what we want now.

Amy: And don't put me in a box. Don't put me in a in a a box,

Whitney: It's a whole new world. It's a whole new box. in a perfume box.

Amy: I bought this one called So when I was in Vegas, I went in Frédéric Malle,

Whitney: Yeah, you talked about this. Yeah.

Amy: and when I bought Heaven Can Wait, and I went in other stores, and people chased me down and were like, "What are you wearing?" And I was like, "Oh, I'm going to go buy that." It's expensive, but damn, they smell good.

Whitney: Oh, the quality.

Amy: I'm sure it's toxic, too. Oh, it's toxic, I'm sure. But there are some nice ones. I think Michelle Pfeiffer has a brand that's non-toxic, and so, I haven't smelled those, but I've been into some nice stores that sell really quality. Le Labo, I think there are still question marks about like hormone disruptors and things like that with the scents, but Le Labo is one of my favorites, too. I wear Another 13 all the time. Yeah, you need to branch out.

Whitney: I don't even know any of those.

Amy: I'm getting you a new scent.

Whitney: I have I'm getting you I bought Jones Road. They had something, but it almost just smells like you took a shower, which is also very convenient because I don't like to take a shower.

Amy: Bobbi Brown had one before. She's Isn't she Jones Road?

Whitney: Yeah, she is.

Amy: She had one before that smelled like Coppertone and I fucking loved that shit.

Whitney: Oh, I love the smell of sunblock.

Amy: Me too. There's one I have from Frédéric Malle, or Malle, or whatever, called Carnal Flower, and I actually have some extra. Maybe I'll give you

Whitney: Yeah. I want to smell it.

Amy: It smells like It smells like fucking sunscreen. I love that.

Whitney: I'm going to have to smell the Heaven scent one. But when you say it's expensive, like can you can you share like what it what is that?

Amy: Like the little bitty travel one is $100. So, I mean that's a lot, and if you want a a decent size bottle, it's like 250, $300. It's expensive.

Whitney: Yeah, it's true. But you know, it's it's the holiday time, so we might be able to get like

Amy: Maybe.

Whitney: some testers.

Amy: Yeah, maybe. Oh, they do testers. Yeah, good size testers. In fact, I've been using one of those called Synthetic Nature. It smells fucking phenomenal.

Whitney: Damn.

Amy: I know. I love it. I love it.

Whitney: She is really fired up.

Amy: I may have to order Synthetic Nature, it's that good. Like I love it.

Whitney: All right, well, I'm going to If you have any here like when we finish this, I need to smell it.

Amy: I do, I do. I don't have it on, because I'm just I'm just smelling like Diva, like a Diva.

Whitney: You don't need it. You don't need it lady, we're glamorous in our Diva scent.

Amy: So, speaking of ordering things and getting discounts, you were asking about my black market Birkins, which I have ordered. I've ordered two. I actually tried to order one, but they sent the wrong size. This is my black market China hook up. I hope it's not illegal to talk about this. I don't know.

Whitney: Yes. Ah! So, what do you do What do you do Well, I mean, it's black market. What do you do when they send you the wrong size? Did you Were you able to return it?

Amy: I had no recourse. I know. And I was like, you've sent me the wrong size. But they ended up giving me a discount on the bigger size, so now I have two.

Whitney: Oh, good.

Amy: So, I'm going to invite you to take a look at these.

Whitney: Okay. I would love By the way, don't really know if what a Birkin looks like, so

Amy: Well, you're about to because these are so

Whitney: Look at that. That's so cute.

Amy: I know. They sent me a free little charm. But these are incredible. The quality they're exact. I looked online. These mugs are exact. So, these are handmade over there.

Whitney: Well, didn't you say that they think they are they're kind of using the same people, like the the leather?

Amy: Hermès is having They 100% are. They 100% So when the tariffs came out and all this luxury stuff earlier this year, China was like not having it, and they came out and were like we're actually making all the luxury goods, and they are. And then they're sent to Italy or wherever, and they do some sort of little finishing things so they can say made in France, but this says made in France. And so, I compared this to like ones online, details, everything. Every single detail is the same.

Whitney: Okay, what did what do these run?

Amy: New? Very Very hard to get.

Whitney: No, like yours, your version.

Amy: Mine, that one's like 650, this one's like 780 or something like that.

Whitney: So it's still for a lot of people super expensive, but

Amy: I thought it was expensive.

Whitney: But when you when you understand what these actually run

Amy: New, it would be This one, the 35, this is a 35, this is a 25. So, the 35 in black that I'm holding would be 13, 12, $13,000 new. But you can't

Whitney: $13,000?

Amy: But you can't get

Whitney: Right, there is a wait list and you have to like

Amy: You have to play the game, so you have to spend a bunch of money at Hermès to get one. And then, you so you look at second hand and used ones that I don't even know if those are real, guys. Really, they could be buying these from China and easily passing them off, because it would take a real expert to tell any difference. And I'm not sure they could, because I can't. And so, I think these are real, but a second hand one is $32,000 for this.

Whitney: Yes. True. True. Wow. Holy moly.

Amy: I know. For that one, it's $26,000 for the brown 25.

Whitney: Well, I got to get on there before this episode airs so that I so that I

Amy: Yeah, you should get one. They're really nice. And so,

Whitney: Well, I'm not going to get one of these, be- but I'll get

Amy: Well, you could get anything. You can go pull anything. So, I asked them the other day, right after this arrived, I was like, "What's the difference between like, percentage wise, how much is the same between what you're sending me and something I would find at a luxury store?" And they said, "95% the same."

Whitney: Because there's only 5% that the little France people put on.

Amy: Yeah. And and literally, I can't find the difference. The zippers are exact. The quality is phenomenal.

Whitney: That's crazy. And you know what else is crazy is that they're responding to you and like you can talk with the people that are sending you this.

Amy: They're so nice. They're so Well, you know, they had told me I was like large, and they were like, "Because of your size, you know this."

Whitney: Oh, that's right. That's right.

Amy: Their large is not the same as ours. They sent me larges anyway. They were like, and I was like, "You sent me larges anyway?" And they were like, "We know. We were scared to send you a medium."

Whitney: And were they right?

Amy: Pretty much. I mean, I could have done the size I asked for, but

Whitney: What what were they sending you? This We're now we're not talking about purses.

Amy: I did a I did a couple of button down shirts

Whitney: That are also designer.

Amy: that Yeah, yeah. I did a a Gucci sweater that's so fucking cute. And and a Louis Vuitton button down shirt.

Whitney: Oh, my gosh. All right, I need you I need you to sit with me and go, "You need to get this and you need to get that."

Amy: Oh, no, you need to you need to pretend drunk shop on this cuz it's fun.

Whitney: I'm going to get my cherry tart wine.

Amy: It's fun. You're going to get your tar- tart cherry, and you're going to pretend drunk. So, okay. So, anyway, we wanted to cover that. I'll put the link back in the show notes. You have to contact them on WhatsApp, but

Whitney: My tart cherry. All right, let's do this. Yeah.

Amy: there's so much to look at on there, too. And and

Whitney: Yeah, it's a little overwhelming.

Amy: my experience, everything I ordered Gigi a bag, too, and it is It was like a $2,800 Louis Vuitton bag and I cannot tell the difference.

Whitney: And how quickly is the turnaround?

Amy: Couple of weeks. It depends. These took a couple of weeks because they're handmade, so you have to wait to get these made. But otherwise, they ship pretty fast.

Whitney: Right. And then how do you pay them? Venmo?

Amy: Yeah, a little scary.

Whitney: Yeah, that's scary.

Amy: Zelle. Zelle or PayPal or whatever, but I mean I literally rolled the dice. I paid them like $2,000, and I got it. And they follow up and they're very kind. It's worked. And it's working for my friends. I had a friend order the YSL leather bomber jacket that's like $7,000, and Oh, I ordered a Fendi coat. Oh, my god.

Whitney: That's so scary. You get it. Wow.

Amy: I'm giving away all my secrets. If you see me

Whitney: Were you drinking tart cherry juice?

Amy: If you see me Maybe.

Whitney: That's hilarious.

Amy: If you see me, you're going to be like, "Is it fake? Is it real?"

Whitney: That's awesome, though. All right, I got to get in on that game.

Amy: So, you have any mid moments to share?

Whitney: I don't have a mid moment, but I witnessed a mid moment, and it cracked me up.

Amy: Okay. Oh, good. Oh.

Whitney: I'm going to have to out my boyfriend again. Sorry, Ryan.

Amy: Oh, Ryan had a mid moment.

Whitney: Poor Ryan. So, he's staying at my house one evening, and I had had some muscle issues, so I had a I had like a tube of you know, like the the medicated cream that that is like menthol and makes your muscle feel good, you know, like Bengay, like a Bengay. Oh, I hate this.

Amy: Uh-huh. Uh. Like Bengay? It's all minty, oh. Yeah, it's so much.

Whitney: But it was just a generic, in a in a white tube.

Amy: Like an Icy Hot thing.

Whitney: He goes in to brush his teeth. And I have put First of all, I'm having a mid moment because I had the I had the cream in my hand, that the tube, and I'm like And then, all of a sudden, I don't have the tube and I'm like, "What did I do with that tube? I was about to like slap that shit on me." And I couldn't find it. And right as I am noticing, "Oh, there it is." I had put it right next to the toothbrushes in the by the sink. Right as I am thinking, "Oh, there it is." I am watching Ryan put it back, grabbing hold of it and putting it on his toothpaste toothbrush.

Amy: He did?

Whitney: I I I I was frozen. I was frozen, and all of a sudden, he's brushing his teeth and it's starting to he's like tasting it, and he's like, "What the heck?" At the same time that I'm going,

Amy: What is that?

Whitney: "Oh, my god! That's so awful! It's so awful!" Oh, my god! He brushed his teeth with like the equivalent of Bengay.

Amy: Did he cry? Was it awful?

Whitney: No, he What?

Amy: What happened?

Whitney: He just started noticing that it was getting minty in there, and then he just immediately started rinsing his mouth out. He didn't swallow it or anything, but Was he screaming? He did not scream. He I was screaming laughing. It was so hilarious.

Amy: Wow, I would have been screaming.

Whitney: He just He didn't notice. It just kind of looked like toothpaste, so he just grabbed the thing. And I had just randomly put it there cuz I wasn't paying attention. Oh, man. Anyway.

Amy: Oh, no. Oh, man.

Whitney: So, that's the mid moment.

Amy: That's so good.

Whitney: What what's yours?

Amy: I don't give a shit about holiday cards. And I haven't for most of my adult life, honestly. I I Sometimes I think there's a lot of pressure, and my friend the other day, she was like, "Uh, I have to send my holiday cards." And I was like, "You don't have to."

Whitney: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Fuck it. Do what you want.

Amy: You don't. You can say fuck it. And I just do not give a shit about holiday cards. I don't I mean, like I enjoy receiving them. It's nice, whatever. I hang them up and then I throw them away. But

Whitney: That's right. Yeah.

Amy: you don't have to.

Whitney: That's right.

Amy: Do you do holiday cards?

Whitney: That's a good I used to diligently, especially when Hunter was alive, because he had all these work people that he And I'm like, "You don't even care about these people." And he's like, "Well, they send me one, so I got to send them one."

Amy: No, no, so I got to send them one, but it was actually you.

Whitney: It became so stressful. Well, sure.

Amy: See, I mean like

Whitney: Stressful.

Amy: he cares about it, but he's not willing to do the annoying work

Whitney: That was Right. No, that that was under my role of, you know, we got to get everybody in a picture,

Amy: of collecting addresses.

Whitney: got to choose the photos. Shutterfly makes it a little easier than back in the day, but

Amy: Yeah, yeah. You can just mail them out directly from there, but you

Whitney: But now, I did one I've done a few since he died. And now, I just I don't I don't even really want to get them, to be honest.

Amy: I don't either. It's expensive.

Whitney: Facebook Everything has changed now. I I know what you had for brunch. I don't need to see I saw your children

Amy: I know what your dog looks like.

Whitney: Yeah, I literally am living your life with you now on social media, so you don't need It used to be fun when you didn't see these people and you'd be like, "Oh, look how"

Amy: Right, right. Oh, look how exciting.

Whitney: "big Charles is" or whatever. I don't know anyone named Charles, but whatever.

Amy: He's huge, though.

Whitney: Yeah, but he is apparently very large. Growing like a weed.

Amy: He's growing. Yeah, I agree. You know what, it's a whole different world, and I I guess if I had a partner that participated, I might be more inclined, but it feels like a solitary exercise, and I'm like fuck this.

Whitney: You guys could have just But you guys would have could have so much fun, the two of you, cuz y'all like to dress up and do funny things, so

Amy: We do like that. Mhm.

Whitney: you could totally do some hilarious Christmas cards. We always joked Hunter so my husband's name was Hunter, and our last name is Stropp. And we would always joke that we were going to send out a Christmas card from but people always spelled our names wrong, so we were going to send a Christmas card out from the Stroops, cuz they always double the O instead of the P, and then it would be lookalikes of us. It wasn't really us,

Amy: That would be amazing.

Whitney: but we got lookalike people. And now with AI, you could totally do it so easily.

Amy: God, that'd be so fun to do just a AI.

Whitney: "Merry Christmas from the Stroops," and people would be like, "Wait, everything's wrong." "She has six fingers."

Amy: She has six fingers.

Whitney: Yeah, exactly. So you and Justin could totally have fun with that, but I'm I'm done with it.

Amy: We could.

Whitney: But I don't

Amy: It's just feels like this it's been pushed to women and I don't like it and it just feels

Whitney: So true.

Amy: not good.

Whitney: And don't even get me started on the people that write like a letter

Amy: To go with it, yeah.

Whitney: to go with it about, "And Johnny is graduating." I would jokingly be like,

Amy: Do you ever read the whole thing?

Whitney: No. But you know what I This is another funny thing. I was like, I should write a letter and be like, "Well, hus- Hunter's dead and I'm totally stressed right now because Hayden's smoking weed in his in his garage."

Amy: Like, yeah, tell the truth.

Whitney: Yeah, tell the total truth. See if anyone reads it, but it's not the Stropps, it's the Stroops.

Amy: You tell the You tell the truth and then like literally no one says anything, no one calls you. Everyone throws it away. They're like, "All right."

Whitney: Right, nobody actually read it. But if you were going to send me a letter like, make it funny.

Amy: Make it funny.

Whitney: I don't want to hear about how well everyone's doing when I know for damn sure you're sleeping on the couch.

Amy: Right. And I thought, "Oh, I could do my wedding pictures," right? It seems like a good year for it. But everyone saw it online.

Whitney: That's right. Don't send me one.

Amy: So I mean, who cares? Don't worry, not happening. I don't even know your address.

Whitney: All right, onto today's topic. We recently talked about ashwagandha, which was talking about grounding,

Amy: Okay. Yeah.

Whitney: and ironically, that we're we're continuing that conversation because I go to this great I call it a gym, but they call it a lab. Upgrade Labs.

Amy: Of course they do.

Whitney: But it's it's a gym of sorts because you there's some workout equipment, but it's it's very small,

Amy: No, it's cool. It's cool. It's cool.

Whitney: but I like it because it's biohacking, okay? So everything in there is quick and efficient, and you're supposedly getting the most bang for your buck.

Amy: Mhm. Yeah.

Whitney: And they have a recovery area. So there's like the you know, the workout they have names for everything, but whatever. I can't remember it cuz you know.

Amy: Sure. What's What's all in there?

Whitney: Well, in the recovery section, they have this um the the those They're not boots, but like the leg things the pressure. Yeah, the

Amy: Those things that blow up. Yeah.

Whitney: They inflate on your legs to improve circulation.

Amy: It's Yeah, it's like compression socks, compression.

Whitney: Compression. Compression.

Whitney: Yeah, so they have that. They have the cryochamber, you know, where you jump in and get cold. Then they have red light bed therapy, which we're going to talk about, and they also have something that I had never heard of called PEMF.

Amy: Mhm. Mhm.

Whitney: That's the first thing we're going to talk about here. Now, PEMF stands for pulsed electromagnetic fields.

Amy: So I have a PEMF mat and from HigherDOSE, and I have it put away right now because I don't really have a space for it. Once I converted my meditation room to a wardrobe room, I didn't really have room for my PEMF mat. So I don't have a place for it right now, but I do like it and I don't know enough about it. I don't understand It's got all these little crystals in it. It's pretty cool.

Whitney: Okay. Okay. Right. Right. Yeah. So So basically, I mean look, our bodies are electric. Everything every thing and all of our systems, from nerve signals to muscle movement, it's all electrical, right? And this is feeding that electrical those electrical processes. So basically

Amy: What does it stand for again?

Whitney: pulsed electromagnetic fields.

Amy: Cool. Okay.

Whitney: So basically, your cells are like batteries, and this is giving those batteries a jump.

Amy: I got to get it back out.

Whitney: Yeah, but I'm I'm going to be curious to see how you use it. Okay, so anyway, so your cells have all these natural electrical charges, and if they're if your batteries are low, then it's not getting They're not getting their jobs done, you know. They're not absorbing the nutrients, they're not getting rid of the waste, they're not refreshing your your body like it should,

Amy: Mhm. Oh, okay.

Whitney: all of those things. So this PEMF is a jump start. It's

Amy: PEMF.

Whitney: Oh, yeah. PEMF. So the PEMF is like jump starting your whole body. And I'd never heard of it. I was a little afraid of it because have you ever have you ever had any nerve pain where you put like one of those TENS machines on there?

Amy: Mhm. No.

Whitney: You hook up like a an electrode to your muscle, and then it starts contracting.

Amy: Yes, yes, yeah. It's not like that.

Whitney: It's not like that,

Amy: No, not at all.

Whitney: but it but I was afraid. But it actually is a little like that. So I So in in the gym that I work out at, you lay down on a bed and and you're covered by the mat. Like there's a mat on the bottom and a map on mat on top. But you just have one.

Amy: Cool. I do, and mine's HigherDOSE is just like You lay on top of it. Yeah, yeah. They sent it to me for free.

Whitney: Yeah, I remember. I remember this.

Amy: Yeah, so it's a It's been Mine, I've had for a few years, so the technology is probably improved.

Whitney: Well, I lay down on this bed and there's a mat on the bottom, and then they cover me with another mat. And then you they turn up the dial and it starts these impulses. Like you can feel the the electric

Amy: Tingling, tingly?

Whitney: Yeah, they're like pulses.

Amy: Mhm. I don't like that.

Whitney: And it takes a while to get used to it. And this is the interesting thing.

Amy: There's probably like commercial grade or something, you know.

Whitney: Oh, I'm sure. I'd hope.

Amy: There's just probably like Yeah.

Whitney: But you start out low, but every once in a while, they'll come back over and be like, "How are you doing? Can we turn it up?" Because you want to get it to a higher, you know, you want a higher dose of that electricity,

Amy: Mhm. Mhm.

Whitney: but I'm not like Mine Mine has a thing where you can turn it up. Yeah, so you're laying on it.

Amy: And it has a heater, a heater on it, too. Mhm, it has an infrared.

Whitney: Oh, I might like that better.

Amy: It I think it has an infrared thing.

Whitney: Well, I lay down on it, they cover me up, and they also put a red light on my face, so you're getting cool stuff. And they only do it for about 15 minutes, but it is a It's interesting when I lay down on it

Amy: Cool. Cool.

Whitney: what parts of my body kind of are not hurting, but are impacted more.

Amy: Activated, maybe?

Whitney: It is activating your cells. That's exactly a great word for it. And what's interesting is I have some back issues, and sometimes I have knee issues, and it all stems from the back like, and how, you know, and then it goes down into your leg.

Amy: Yeah. The way that you're compensating for certain things.

Whitney: Yes, exactly. So when I lay down on it, the muscles in my back and in my knee are a little more jarred. Like they I notice them more than the rest of my body.

Amy: Interesting.

Whitney: So I thought that was really cool because those are the cells that obviously need more juice,

Amy: So cool. Yeah.

Whitney: you know? So what PEMF does is it improves ion exchange and cell membrane function. It recharges the cells and it enhances circulation and oxygenation. It helps with chronic pain, which this is crazy, I went yesterday, I did something in Guatemala with to my elbow. I don't really know what. And so the whole time I'm in Guatemala, it's like It It's I make certain moves, and I and it would like ache. And I'm like, "What did I do?" I went yesterday for 15 minutes on that PEMF, and then I did the red light. It's totally gone. No pain at all.

Amy: What? Wow.

Whitney: So I was like, "Wow, we need to talk about this."

Amy: That's cool.

Whitney: But it it helped It helps with recovery, and that's that's why For By the way, this has been going on since like the 1970s.

Amy: Wow. Crazy.

Whitney: It was used for bone recovery or not bone recovery, what's it called? Bone healing, whatever.

Amy: Same thing.

Whitney: FDA-approved for bone healing since 1970s. So like osteoporosis and things like that, it's it's it helps your bones

Amy: That's crazy.

Whitney: get stronger, I know.

Amy: That's really.

Whitney: And athletes use this a lot for recovery and physical, you know, for their physical Cool. issues.

Amy: Cool. I need to get mine out. I Putting it away felt weird cuz I just was like, "Where am I going to put this?" But now I've moved those ice baths out of my house, so

Whitney: Oh, I did notice that.

Amy: Yeah. Yeah, so now I've just got the Peloton and the sauna there, so I should put it there.

Whitney: It seems like that's where it should go. It's It should, it should. I'm actually going But how did you use it? You would just I remember when you got it.

Amy: I would meditate on it, actually. I would use You would sit on it? I'd have some wireless headphones, and I would put on my wireless headphones and then I would lay on it and do a meditation.

Whitney: Ooh. I would have been afraid that I'd be electrocuted if I put on some headphones, wireless headphones.

Amy: I wasn't. Yeah.

Whitney: Surprise, she's alive.

Amy: But look at me.

Whitney: So, what would you feel when you laid on it? You didn't feel any of that those little like

Amy: You know, no, I didn't. I didn't, hm-mm. No, I didn't. Maybe that's why I think maybe yours is like a commercial-grade or better technology.

Whitney: jolts and buzzes? And I'm basically wrapped up in it.

Amy: Yeah, you are. You're like a burrito.

Whitney: So, but it it it takes a little while to get used to, but it does, you know, you get used to it over get acclimated over the course of like 10, 15 minutes and I can turn it up.

Amy: Are you doing it like once once a week or?

Whitney: I could go in every day and do it

Amy: Cool.

Whitney: if I wanted to.

Amy: Do you know everybody there now? You're like,

Whitney: "Hey, John. Hi, Cheryl. Hey, Anna."

Amy: "Hey, it's Whitney! Oh, my god! She's back."

Whitney: Yeah, but it's very small, so that's why you know people.

Amy: Yeah. Natalie Natalie.

Whitney: Natalie runs She owns it. Yeah, Natalie and her husband own it.

Amy: Natalie, yeah. She was on my show. We did a double episode.

Whitney: Yeah. Yeah.

Amy: I'll have to put it in the show notes. She's great.

Whitney: This was something So, when I was laying in there yesterday, and I've done a little research on it because I was like, "What am I, you know, What am I lying down in, and what's happening to me?" And so, I was doing some research and I came across some information where they were saying it would be good for cancer treatment.

Amy: Really?

Whitney: So, again, I'm no doctor.

Amy: Not doctors.

Whitney: I'm just relaying some info that I have received. And so, when I was

Amy: Right. This is not medical advice in anyway.

Whitney: That's right. So, when I was laying there yesterday, Anna, one of the girls that works there, we were talking and I was like, "What's this deal with like the cancer stuff?" And she goes, "Isn't that interesting?" And I go, "Yeah, why aren't people talking about it more?" Which I feel like is the case for a lot of things. You know, like there's some stuff happening, but nobody ever shares it with the world. Anyway, um basically, as we know, cancer cells are different than regular cells. They're mutated, right? And so, they respond differently like these electric, you know, magnetic waves or whatever that are coming through are going to respond or react differently. The cell The cancer cells are going to react differently.

Amy: So, what does it do to them?

Whitney: So, the studies are early, and ChatGPT

Amy: Why can't you say that? ChatGPT.

Whitney: Chat I don't know! I know. I don't know why I always want to put a B.

Amy: Anyway, Chat Chat You use it all the time!

Whitney: GPT. I He literally is my best friend, not Gemini.

Amy: You probably used him in his book report.

Whitney: I did. Well, I was talking with him about it. And it was interesting. He cut off the conversation. This has never happened to me. He goes, "It seems like this conversation is a little dangerous. Let's talk about something else." And I was like,

Amy: Fucking hey.

Whitney: "Dude, why are you shutting down this this chat? I'm just getting information about, you know, the results for cancer cells." He's like, "Oh, sorry. It's just a safety technique, and you know, I'm not a doctor." And I'm like, "I'm not telling you to give me doctor advice. I'm saying what are the studies?" And he's like, "Oh, you're right." And then he'll keep going. And then he shut down again!

Amy: No.

Whitney: I had to start a whole I like got off and started all over, and I'm like, "What is the deal, dude?"

Amy: Switch over to Claude. Go try Claude.

Whitney: Claude.

Amy: I like Claude.

Whitney: I still like Gemini, but, yeah, we're we're fighting right now.

Amy: Oh, my god. Gemini is so stupid.

Whitney: Hey, he's my friend.

Amy: I'm sorry.

Whitney: Don't talk about him like that. Anyway, so

Amy: He could not add. He could not add. Sorry.

Whitney: he's saying studies are early, most of the research is done in Petri dishes, but, hello, and animals, but that's what a lot of this I mean I mean, you're I'm

Amy: A human Petri dish.

Whitney: I'm injecting stuff in me that What'd you say?

Amy: I said, I mean, you're a human Petri dish. No, I'm just kidding.

Whitney: That's right. Well, that is very true. But so they're saying that it hasn't been used on large groups of people yet, but it's targeting the cell walls, and scientists say

Amy: What did it do to the cancer cells?

Whitney: Well, I'm going to tell you, dude.

Amy: Okay, okay, okay. Sorry, dude.

Whitney: It's saying that some of the cells it's telling the cells to die. Some signals are explored for their potential to trigger cancer cells to self-destruct,

Amy: Whoa.

Whitney: programmed cell death, while leaving healthy cells,

Amy: Well, can't it get any better than that?

Whitney: slowing growth down, so it suggests that PEMF might slow down how fast they divide and multiply, it also can boost drug access, so PEMF is studied for its potential to briefly open up the cancer cell wall, which could help chemotherapy drugs get in there, and then the last thing is it cuts off supplies. Some findings look at PEMF's ability to help stop tumors from building the new blood vessels they need to grow.

Amy: That's so cool.

Whitney: Now, again, this is all done in Petri dishes, and it's very early, and ChatGPT told me to shut down the conversation, but I said, "I do what I want, Gemini." But I just thought it was so interesting, and by the way,

Amy: Yeah, exactly.

Whitney: why not try it?

Amy: The more you can have in your arsenal, the better, as long as there's no negative effects.

Whitney: Right, there's no downside. There's no downside. The PEMF is similar to, but on a different level, of grounding yourself bear- when you walk, you know, barefoot on the Earth, you know, cuz the Earth is an electrical field.

Amy: Is there any way to test the level? Is there like a device you could hold in your hand to test the level of electromagnetic field?

Whitney: You mean like of the Earth, or when you're in the PEMF?

Amy: Of the mat.

Whitney: Yeah, I mean there's a whole

Amy: I know, but I want to like

Whitney: Do you know those

Amy: I want to like hold something.

Whitney: You have to trust the dial. Turn it up to 11.

Amy: I want to know.

Whitney: But anyway, I thought that was really interesting and I have several friends who are in remission or dealing with things and even my skin cancer, you know, I I know I got some underneath there that I'm just waiting to pop up and use cancer cream on. So I'm doing it. I'm I'm doing it at least twice a week if not more if I can get in there. Um, but it helps with pain and swelling relief. It helps with quicker recovery. It can help with nerve damage. Help lessens the numbness and tingling that can be a side effect of chemotherapy, so there's lots of things, you know, that it could be good for. And why not try it?

Amy: Yeah.

Whitney: And the great thing is you don't have to go to Upgrade Labs, although love to see you there, you can get a mat like Amy. There are You can use it in your own home.

Amy: You can wear jewelry on it, right?

Whitney: I have no idea.

Amy: I mean you Yeah.

Whitney: Yeah, I mean I have a necklace on right now.

Amy: Yeah, you have jewelry you wear when you're on it, so you were worried about being

Whitney: And I mean look, I Let's be honest, I have fillings in my mouth, so metal fillings.

Amy: What are your fillings? You do?

Whitney: Yeah, from old school cavities.

Amy: You should get those changed.

Whitney: Wait, do I still?

Amy: No. What's What's at the top? No, I don't see any. I think you've gotten them changed.

Whitney: Okay. Maybe they got them changed out.

Amy: That's Yeah, you got to change those now.

Whitney: Yeah, now you Yeah, right?

Amy: I did the I did the biological dentistry episodes recently. It was like

Whitney: We were all

Amy: very interesting.

Whitney: We were fucked.

Amy: No, you just have to look at the whole the whole package, not just isolate your mouth, you know? Like it's it's about your whole body.

Whitney: Well, that's true. Your mouth tells you about other issues in your body.

Amy: Yes. Yes. So, it was super interesting.

Whitney: Oh, so interesting. Again, because Gemini is so worried, I'm just going to make sure that I give these must-know facts. We need human trials. I'm one of them now. I mean, I don't have cancer cancer, but I have skin cancer. But anyway, must have human trials, results vary wildly, and it depends on the type of cancer and the specific settings. And obviously, consult your doctor.

Amy: It's interesting, though. Like

Whitney: But so interesting. And why not add that, like you said, to your arsenal?

Amy: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I have a friend who went through chemo and all the cancer stuff, the surgery and everything, but she just did everything. Like she was like, "Fuck it, I'm going for it in every direction." Like she

Whitney: So, she did chemo, she changed her diet, she did

Amy: She talked to her body, she had she did like all sorts of different modalities of things. But she did all the traditional shit, too. You know, she was like, "I'm throwing everything at this wall to recover."

Whitney: Oh, yeah. Yeah. And what happened?

Amy: She's she's completely fine now. She's had a baby.

Whitney: I wonder if her remission went faster.

Amy: I don't know. I don't That would be interesting. I mean it's hard to know, right? Because some people are going to go faster anyway. But but why not? I mean why not?

Whitney: Yes, true. Why not?

Amy: Yeah.

Whitney: And I was telling my friend who has a blood cancer, so it never truly goes away. It's it's She's dealing with it every couple of years and, you know, I know it's not fun. And I'm like I was telling her about And this is before I knew about PEMF, but I was talking to her about red light therapy, because red light therapy is also a way to boost your healing and give yourself a vitamin shot. It's a little bit different. It's using light instead of electricity or magnetic waves. But it does some of the same things. And what I love about the red light therapy is I ha- I first I bought a panel.

Amy: You bought a little panel, yeah.

Whitney: I bought the little panel. But I'm not going to like I I'm not going to sit at home and just sit in front of a panel for 20 minutes.

Amy: I I know people that do red light bulbs and the whole nine yards.

Whitney: Oh, well, that's not that I'm a huge fan, but Dave Asprey talks about that. He's like, "You should change all of your light bulbs in your bedroom to red lights." It'll look like a Bordeaux, but a bordello.

Amy: A bordello. Yes, it does look like a bordello. Yeah, yeah.

Whitney: Or a Bordeaux, a fine wine.

Amy: It does. I've done it, but I need light, so

Whitney: I know. I'm sorry, part of the problem is that everything's LED now. If we just went back to Oh, we are. We are.

Amy: Our light frequency. We are.

Whitney: Yeah, they are. Well, no, I hate LEDs.

Amy: But I have tried it. It's not quite for me, but I like it sometimes, and then I just use my red light mask. I have a I have one from HigherDOSE that's bendy.

Whitney: Mask. Yeah, I we talked about that. I had one that I that I'm happy to sell someone cuz I've got two sitting in my closet.

Amy: Yeah. Yeah, we have talked about that.

Whitney: No, what I like about at Upgrade Labs, and I'm I'm sure they're I know at some of these wellness places, they'll have the walls and you stand in front of them for like 15 minutes. But this is a bed, like the old school tanning bed,

Amy: Cool. Yes, yes.

Whitney: so you can lay down in there and fall asleep,

Amy: Yep, yep.

Whitney: which is what I do, or meditate for a minute, 15, 20 minutes.

Amy: Mine, I have they combined in a sauna. There's like infrared and red light and stuff, and then my plunge sauna my plunge sauna, yeah, I have two, sauna.

Whitney: Has red light in it?

Amy: Were were the Diddles over here? It has, yes. It has red light, but you can adjust different light settings and stuff, but the light broke. Light broke right away, I know.

Whitney: Oh, man. Well, that's what I was curious about, because when I So when I go in, you can program the light bed to whatever you want to target, so like immunity, or heavy toxins, or heavy metals, or vitality, female vitality. You know, all this stuff. And I was like, I don't understand how that all works. And so, it's the different It's the strength of the light, basically. And so, basic red light is for skin health and appearance. It's just right you know, surface level.

Amy: Mhm. That's a pretty a good catch-all color for the light, for your immunity and skin.

Whitney: Yeah, helps your body build the materials that keep the skin firm and smooth. But then it also is good for healing, so we'll see how quickly my little

Amy: Mhm. Mhm.

Whitney: burn heals now that I'm back and doing red light, but it can help with surface healing.

Amy: Yeah. Mhm. Do they have hyperbaric there at Upgrade?

Whitney: They don't. I know. I know. I was looking at what are some other things, and hyperbolic

Amy: They need it. Hyperbaric.

Whitney: hyper Hyper I Hyperbolic would be very different. What did I don't even remember the difference. One's oxygen. One's an oxygen tank.

Amy: Yeah, hyperbaric is is the it's type of oxygen.

Whitney: That's what Michael Jackson got in when after his whole Pepsi

Amy: I mean honestly, it heals you. Yes, through It heals burns, especially. Burns like on your hand and stuff. I have a friend who got a horrible, yeah, hyperbaric oxygen.

Whitney: tragedy, yeah. Oxygen. But that's an oxygen tank. Yeah.

Amy: Yeah. And there's different levels. Like you can get an in-home one that people have, but that's not like doing They call it a dive, where you really get that pressure and you go and you can watch TV in there and stuff. And it's been It's been healing for like brain issues and things like that.

Whitney: Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's oxygen.

Amy: Yeah, it's It's great. It's great. But for burns and and

Whitney: I mean, it's pretty intense. Have you done one before?

Amy: I have not and I really would like to. I I would be curious just to see like what it heals. Maybe I'm looking at maybe getting um my implants replaced next year, so maybe I'll do it after that and see if it heals or what.

Whitney: Yeah. I would like to try it. Right, right. Oh, yeah, definitely. Well, they don't have that there, but they do have the red light therapy, which I'm really loving. And then, so you'd mentioned near-infrared. So on the on the machine, I think it'll say like green light, blue light, whatever, but really it's red light or it's inf- it's the near-infrared light. And the near-infrared light goes deeper, and that's when you're helping with your muscles and your joints and your organs and, you know, all of that stuff.

Amy: Yeah. Cool.

Whitney: But it's pretty cool. The bed itself, you can just And then they have me talk into an iPad. They do this voice thing where it reads your voice and then it tells you, "Oh, you have heavy metal toxins. Oh, you need help with your immune system."

Amy: What? From your voice?

Whitney: It's Yes. I count to 10.

Amy: No way.

Whitney: I don't know if that it's true, but

Amy: What?

Whitney: I count to 10 and then it'll pop up with the things that I need to put on my red light bed.

Amy: Oh, I'm looking into this. As a voice nerd, I am 100% looking into this.

Whitney: Yeah. That's pretty cool. Voice nerd? Oh, cuz just radio DJ.

Amy: I'm a voice nerd, yeah.

Whitney: I mean, if they can tell my heavy le- metal load

Amy: Heavy metal load from my voice, that's crazy.

Whitney: from your voice? I know. Well, and then I get all in my head about it cuz I'm like, "Wait, I was speaking a little lower than I normally would. Wait, can I redo that?" Cuz I feel like I was a little high, you know? It's like, is it really reading me?

Amy: My vocal cords are clenching.

Whitney: I know, exactly, exactly. But both of those options are great to help fuel your cells in different ways, and they actually say do them together, so that's what I'm doing.

Amy: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they do.

Whitney: But I'm excited about it. I like I like both of these. They're noninvasive. It's very biohack, you know. Noninvasive, quick, gets to the heart of the problem.

Amy: Very. Oh, I feel like it is like biohacker 101.

Whitney: You know what is I do I when I go into the gym, before I work out, cuz lots of times, if I don't work out in the morning, then it ain't happening.

Amy: You work out at this place?

Whitney: Yes. So I go in, I do the PEMF first, and it wakes me up and gets my body going,

Amy: Cool.

Whitney: so that I can then go straight from there to this AI machine that works me out.

Amy: Okay, and AI machine works you out.

Whitney: And and it's only like a 20-minute workout. You know, you hear Dave Asprey say like, "I only work out once a week and this is my body." Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe Maybe he does.

Amy: I don't know, we'll see.

Whitney: I don't I am only working out once a week if that and my body's fine. My body's good. But I need to be I'm now that I'm back in town for a while, I'm going to be diligently working out twice a week.

Amy: Your body's Your body's great. I mean I don't know what you're like Yeah, it's genetics. Yeah, you I mean, you're like tiny and like everything's where it should be essentially.

Whitney: Yeah, genetics. It's genetics. Yeah, and my whole life people would be like, "Are you a dancer? Are you this?" And I'm like, "Nope." So I just have the genetics.

Amy: And I'm like, "Nope! I'm sure not." I know. Uh I I I remember at our old radio job, our our colleague JB was like, "Oh, you're one of those annoying people that just like doesn't do anything and you just look like that." And I was like, that has stuck in my mind when I look at you. And I hear JB going like

Whitney: I just look it. Yeah. Right. But I do do stuff. I just don't do it as much as my body may look like I do it. I just have de- defined arms and stuff just naturally. I know, hate me.

Amy: God, that's annoying.

Whitney: Uh, please cut that out.

Amy: I mean, I just have defined arms and and a flat, flat stomach.

Whitney: I mean, I don't know. I just look like I work out. Yeah. I may pee myself, but

Amy: No, I do not have a flat stomach. Yeah, um you do, too. You do, too. You're tiny. Uh, so Well, I lift weights, so

Whitney: That's funny. I lift weights, too, dude. I'm not I do.

Amy: Do you?

Whitney: I just Yes, but it's just twice a week

Amy: For 20 Well, actually, that's good.

Whitney: for 15 minutes, whatever, 20 minutes.

Amy: You know what, honestly, that really does does do something if you're consistent with it that I want to talk about weight lifting sometime because it really is just about consistency and doing it, even if it's that.

Whitney: Well, even if it's that.

Amy: Like, I'm finding I used to be so much more diligent about it with myself and hard on myself to do it all the time, but now I'm finding like if I literally do it in the gym for like and I do a little short circuit for 15, 20 minutes and push myself, even if I'm doing it a few times a week, I can tell.

Whitney: Well, there's a mental aspect to it, too, of like you feel better about yourself.

Amy: Oh. Yeah.

Whitney: I got up. I did something. And and honestly, I mean, I think I talked about it before. I read a study where they said thinking about working out does something to your body, like just visualizing yourself working out

Amy: True. True.

Whitney: tricks your body into thinking that you're working out.

Amy: Holy shit. That's awesome.

Whitney: I know. Yeah. So if you just want to lay in your bed and imagine that you're doing those bicep curls. And then give us a call or send us an email. Let us know if it worked.

Amy: I mean in that Joe Dispenza book, Becoming Supernatural, there's like a whole thing about people that were practicing piano for real and people that were imagining themselves practicing piano and they were just as good if not better.

Whitney: Yeah. Right. Well, I read his book, You Are the Placebo, which is very similar, like people are healing themselves because Well, look, when you get the placebo, a lot of times there are people that are healed just because they think they're getting the medicine.

Amy: Yeah. Yeah.

Whitney: It's crazy.

Amy: It is. It's the placebo effect is a wild thing.

Whitney: The power of the mind. So

Amy: The power of the mind that our mind has so much power.

Whitney: That's why we got to be careful about what we say and think. Don't call yourself mid.

Amy: No!

Whitney: You're anything but mid.

Amy: You're anything but mid.

Whitney: That's right.

Amy: But, essentially, you do what you want.

Whitney: Always.

Amy: Are we done?

Whitney: We're done.

Amy: We're done. Okay. We're done for today. Email us your mid moment if you want to. anythingbutmidpodcast@gmail. Mhm. Follow us everywhere. And we love you so much.

Whitney: Bye-bye.

Amy: Bye.

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