Glutathione

Anything But Mid is hosted by Amy Edwards and Whitney Stropp. Neither host is a doctor and nothing here is medical advice. Lightly cleaned for readability.

Amy: I'm Amy.

Whitney: I'm Whitney. They call it midlife, but you are anything but mid.

Amy: That's right, girl.

Whitney: Let's go.

Amy: Today, our book report today,

Whitney: I love it.

Amy: oral report,

Whitney: Yes, ma'am.

Amy: is on glutathione.

Whitney: I love it. I did not know anything about glutathione until about a month ago.

Amy: What?

Whitney: I'd never heard of it.

Amy: Really?

Whitney: No. And then, I guess I clicked on something or I don't know, I started getting all these ads, so then I started doing the research on why do I need this and now I have the drops that I put under my tongue and then they want me to swish it around for 60 seconds and then swallow it.

Amy: Oh, and do you do that?

Whitney: Yes, but not always the full 60 seconds.

Amy: Does it smell bad?

Whitney: No, it's a chocolate mint.

Amy: Interesting.

Whitney: Yeah. Doesn't smell bad, it's chocolate mint flavor.

Amy: I wonder how effective it is. Do you know anything about its efficacy?

Whitney: Well, I don't. I mean, the company says it's very effective, but I have heard that going through the stomach

Amy: The company, the company is saying it's amazing.

Whitney: you know it's true. 200% effective. No, but I do know that anything that you ingest has can get lost in translation when you go through the stomach, right?

Amy: That's right, that's right. And the liver.

Whitney: Glutathione seems to be particularly prone to that. So it makes yeah, it makes sense, I guess, because it is like a little liquid liver situation, right?

Amy: We're about to find out.

Whitney: Tell me about it.

Amy: We're about to find out. You're about to get all the glutathione you can handle.

Whitney: Let's get glutathione-y.

Amy: I mean, maybe if I'm selling glutathione, maybe you're interested, so let's see. Let's see today. So I have had experience with glutathione for the last I don't know, four years maybe.

Whitney: What?

Amy: I know, I think I was an early adapter.

Whitney: How did you hear about it?

Amy: I was getting IVs at Alive and Well here in Austin and they they would talk about it, and I could barely pronounce it. I was like, what the hell is glutathione? And so glutathi-one or I didn't know what it was. And so that would be put sometimes, but I didn't even understand what I was getting. You know, it was just one of those things, they were like, this is good for you, and you're like, okay.

Whitney: You're like, "All right, stick it in my IV."

Amy: Yeah, I know. It's crazy how we do, yeah. I'm like, "Oh, is this the latest thing? Yeah, stick stick that in me." And I have one like stunning, gorgeous friend that would go with us sometimes, and she's younger, and she was like into glutathi- she was like, "Oh yeah." And I was like, "Well then, okay, if she's doing it, I'm in."

Whitney: And you've stuck with it that whole four years?

Amy: No. Okay. I would get it sometimes and then I did an episode, my episode number 192, so we'll put a link in the show notes, you can listen if you want. It's glutathione with a doctor that specializes in it and he created this brand called Auro Wellness, A-U-R-O, Wellness, and he wrote a book called The Glutathione Revolution.

Whitney: Oh, wow.

Amy: So you talk about being sold something, I was sold something, and he so he sent me some products. His name is Nayan Patel, Dr. Nayan Patel. Super interesting, it was a great episode, and so yeah, he wrote The Glutathione Revolution: Fight Disease, Slow Aging, and Increase Energy with the Master Antioxidant. So you're like, sold already, right?

Whitney: Right.

Amy: So he in his brand, he sent me some of the products. They are topical. They are topical. They are so far from chocolate mint, I don't even know how to express how far they are.

Whitney: Oh. It's stinky? Is it stinky?

Amy: I mean, would rotten eggs be considered the opposite of

Whitney: Can you put some essential oil into them?

Amy: That's a good idea, but I honestly don't know if it would mask the smell.

Whitney: Really?

Amy: So he even told me that, so it's a it's a topical and you put it on your abdomen and you spray and I do it every morning. Is it making a difference? I have no idea.

Whitney: How long have you been doing it every morning? How long?

Amy: A year-ish.

Whitney: Okay. Do you, since it's a horrible smell, do you then take shower like or you just sit with it and let it dissolve? Yeah.

Amy: It goes away. I roll with it. I get up so early that no one else really smells it but me. Today actually, I could still smell it like I don't know.

Whitney: You should have brought the little thing. I want to smell it.

Amy: Oh, I can run grab it, but um yeah, so it's it's bad. When I say rotten eggs, it's accurate.

Whitney: Oh, yeah.

Amy: So he sent me also some face products that they make that are supposed to be good. I I had to get rid of them. I had to get rid of them.

Whitney: Yeah, you don't want rotten egg on your face.

Amy: Smelled so gnarly. I am sensitive to smells. Very. So I couldn't do it. I I bagged the whole thing, so anyway, but this one Glutaryl that that is their product I have stuck with because there's so many good things about it.

Whitney: Yeah, let's run through why this is such an amazing, important tripeptide or what's

Amy: You know what, I'm going to tell you, and the fact that you just knew tripeptide, I am beyond impressed. You get an A for today.

Whitney: Yay.

Amy: Yeah, you get an A.

Whitney: I retain weird stuff, and then like my friend's name, I forget. Anyway.

Amy: But the like maybe it's this peptide thing that you're all tuned in to.

Whitney: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

Amy: Really? Okay. It is a tripeptide. Do you know the three things that are in it?

Whitney: I know amino acid.

Amy: I don't know.

Whitney: Oh, then nope.

Amy: Glutamate, cysteine,

Whitney: Cysteine?

Amy: C-Y-S-T-E-I-N-E. And glycine.

Whitney: Okay, I think they're all amino acids, that's why I'm coming up with that.

Amy: Okay. Beautiful.

Whitney: But no, I did not know the different names.

Amy: So it was first like discovered in 1888 by J de Rey-Pailhade. Whatever.

Whitney: Discovered?

Amy: Because I know it's in every cell.

Whitney: They were discovered in plants. Yeah, so like it was figured out.

Amy: Right. They took a cell and they dissected it and found this thing. Yes, then it got isolated later in the 20th century. Isolated it from yeast, liver, muscle, and worked out its structure and its role in biology.

Whitney: Yes, I'm glad that you because one of the things when I was going to start taking this, and I'll think of this sometimes, like you know, you're getting like vitamin D and and these amino acids and like glutathione, and you're like, where are they getting it? How is it is it being extracted from something? And I did read that it was grown in yeast or something like that.

Amy: I asked that to that guy, to the doctor too. I was like, "But where is it coming from?"

Whitney: Is somebody deplete of glutathione?

Amy: There's a farm of people just like laying there like giving all their glutathione.

Whitney: Totally. Inflamed. Yeah. But luckily, they do it they can do it in a lab with yeast or something.

Amy: Yes, yes. The first chemical synthesis of glutathione was achieved by Vincent du Vigneaud.

Whitney: The Vigneaud board.

Amy: Yeah, in 1952. So and they've discovered more about it since in the last what, 70 years, right?

Whitney: I was going to say six months.

Amy: So pretty

Whitney: I've only known about it for one month.

Amy: Feels recent, right?

Whitney: Yeah, it does.

Amy: Yes, so it has been here for like 100 years or so. People have been working with it and figuring it out. So in my episode, I learned

Whitney: Episode 192.

Amy: Episode 192 with Nayan Patel. Great guy. Loved it. Loved the episode. I was super fascinated and it's always just good to have somebody who knows what they're talking about, right?

Whitney: Yeah, of course.

Amy: And he's really into it. So I mean, he wrote the book.

Whitney: Really into, and I keep forgetting how to say it, glutathione.

Amy: Glutathione. Okay. Glutathione. So the thing about it is it's all about like reducing inflammation and oxidative stress. So so that is what he talks about the most in there and this is going to help defend your body against that. IV and oral glutathione, according to him, say that it

Whitney: Don't work.

Amy: they say it doesn't last or absorb well. So that's why he makes Glutaryl, the topical version, so you get it intracellularly where it's actually needed.

Whitney: And and he is saying put it it's interesting where they want you to put things.

Amy: I know, right?

Whitney: Like it's always like the inner thigh or on your abdomen and up here, I guess, I don't know. Maybe around the lymph nodes?

Amy: Lymph nodes, I don't know.

Whitney: I don't know. Why the Dave Asprey puts it there, too. I saw I think he uses I think he uses Glutaryl as well.

Amy: The same guy, yeah. Yeah, I think so. I I saw him like

Whitney: I guess it's where it's easy to absorb there and then it's in your bloodstream, I don't know.

Amy: That's where he recommended it.

Whitney: Interesting.

Amy: I don't really know why. Maybe maybe we may get to that. Maybe stashed in my notes somewhere.

Whitney: Right. All right.

Amy: So yeah, so you know, it reduces inflammation. It does help with some brain health. Supports immunity, detoxifies your liver, and promotes glowing skin from the inside out. We want all that. We want all that good stuff. But, of course, in my episode, he talks about, you know, healthy habits. Imagine that, so like so pair it with like good diet and hydration.

Whitney: Of course, all of the other things. Don't do a bunch of coke and then think that the glutathione is going to

Amy: And then spray a little

Whitney: Although, Charlie Sheen seems to be doing all right.

Amy: You know what, that guy. Go figure.

Whitney: Oh, man.

Amy: So it is called the master antioxidant. So it comes up a lot now in wellness conversations. Where did you even hear about it first?

Whitney: I don't know. I think, like I said, I must have clicked on something in Instagram and then I I don't know, I just started getting little ads for it and then I was like, "What is this?" And I'm always looking for a super you know, a super ingredient, you know, like that does everything.

Amy: Makes sense.

Whitney: And I did know that it I remember hearing that it's in every cell in your body. And so to to to give your body more of it just means your cells are all going to be fully fed, right? And it's like the liver, it's cleansing out like zombie cells or like the the free radicals or something?

Amy: That's Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Whitney: Yeah. Not not New Radicals, they have great music.

Amy: They do.

Whitney: But the free radical Isn't there isn't there a band called the Free Radicals?

Amy: It's not, "We do what we want."

Whitney: Yeah, no, it's the New Radicals. And they sing a song

Amy: You get what you give.

Whitney: Yeah, that one. Okay.

Amy: Yeah, exactly.

Amy: All right, yes, we are going to cover some of that today, too. Now, listen, I want to preface this. There is not a ton of study

Whitney: Okay, I can't wait. No rat studies?

Amy: about glutathione benefiting midlife women. There's not even midlife rats that female rats that are doing that.

Whitney: Doing this? Wow.

Amy: Yeah, so it's more a broader kind of

Whitney: Well, it makes sense, because it's in all of your cells and your cells need it to clean out the system and get rid of the free radicals and the inflammation or whatever, you know. So it makes sense. Why do we need a lot of studies on it?

Amy: You know what?

Whitney: They've studied what it does in the body.

Amy: Well, but you know, so many studies are only done on men and then like they've only started studying stuff in women like, literally, in the last 10 years or something insane. So anyway, let's just talk about, generally, what it does to the body first, then I'll I'll tell you the studies that have been done. So it is

Whitney: Yeah. Okay.

Amy: cellular health. You know what you're talking about.

Whitney: All right. Sometimes. Tripeptide.

Amy: Tripeptide. Way to go. Way to go.

Whitney: I'm a good student.

Amy: I think you scored points with everyone with that.

Whitney: All right, awesome.

Amy: Okay, so let's see. So glutathione is fundamental to cellular health. Some of its main roles: Antioxidant, right? It donates I don't want to get too scientific here.

Whitney: No, don't.

Amy: Because then we overwhelm, right?

Whitney: Dumb it down, Mensa.

Amy: So Dumb it down. Let me see, how do I dumb this down? I don't know. It's good for antioxidants, let's just say that. It does something with like It's getting rid of

Whitney: an electron.

Amy: Yeah, it's and it neutralizes something going on.

Whitney: Yeah. I like it. That's good enough.

Amy: Yeah, let's just leave it at that. We don't need to do the sciencey science.

Whitney: No. It's it's It's helping with inflammation, antioxidants,

Amy: Antioxidants.

Whitney: which is what we all are looking for for our skin.

Amy: Yes. And and it regenerates

Whitney: And

Amy: your cells. So we want that.

Whitney: Yes. You want to slough off the dead ones.

Amy: Right? It restores Yeah, it restores antioxidant capacity. It also detoxifies.

Whitney: We love that.

Amy: We love that. Yes. So all the things that the liver does I think this does.

Whitney: Yes, it makes things that are bad easier to More water soluble and easy to get rid of, yes. Get rid of. Yeah.

Amy: Boy, you're good.

Whitney: All right.

Amy: You're good, you could have done this without me.

Whitney: I am. Except I can't pronounce it.

Amy: No. Well, I can't either, so. We're just doing our best. And once again, I I think we have to mention this.

Whitney: What the thing like gluta We are not doctors.

Amy: We are not doctors, this is this is not medical advice.

Whitney: No.

Amy: This is all experience and podcasts and internet research.

Whitney: Yes. And our Yeah, our own experiences with it.

Amy: Yeah, and our own experiences. So okay. So many enzymes and proteins have cysteine thiols, whatever that is, that can be oxidized. So glutathione helps maintain the state of these proteins. So I think all that means is that it is benefiting any proteins that you might have in your body, so that's good. We want that.

Whitney: Right. Keeping them safe from the free radicals.

Amy: Free radicals. Okay, I don't know.

Whitney: Yeah, let's go there.

Amy: That worked.

Whitney: It sounded right.

Amy: I think Free radicals. Free!

Whitney: They're free and they're radical.

Amy: Free radicals. Okay.

Whitney: All right.

Amy: It helps regenerate or maintain other antioxidants, like vitamin C and vitamin E, reducing their oxidized forms. I always think like you want things that are oxidized, but you actually don't. That's like rust.

Whitney: No. Well

Amy: It's like rust in your body.

Whitney: yeah, it does confuse me because you think oxidize is like oxygen.

Amy: Oxygen. Sounds good.

Whitney: But the only reason why I know it's not good is because we like antioxidants, like when there's a product and it's like, "It's an antioxidant." I'm like, "I'll take five." So I know that oxid oxidization, oxidation is not good.

Amy: Yes. It's bad. That's like It's bad. rusting in your body. Do not want that.

Whitney: Ages you.

Amy: We want the anti- oxidants. It's like super confusing. They should have switched that one around.

Whitney: Yes. They really Some of those should have. Who named this?

Amy: So it also, we all know that mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. It I'm always trying to feed my mitochondria. Well, glutathione is going to feed it, because if it's in your mitochondria, it helps buffer some bad stuff

Whitney: Some bad stuff.

Amy: that's generated as byproducts of oxidative blah blah blah, right?

Whitney: Yeah. Don't want it.

Amy: So we don't want that.

Whitney: No.

Amy: And I'm not even going to say it, okay. Okay, okay, it's phosphorylation. Phosphorylation. In a it just protects your mitochondrial DNA.

Whitney: That sounds important.

Amy: Sounds great.

Whitney: Sign me up, except for not the rotten egg smell.

Whitney: So I I should just stop taking my chocolate mint?

Amy: I have my doubts about your chocolate mint.

Whitney: Yeah, the fact that it is chocolate mint tasting also makes me wonder what's in there. I don't think it's chocolate, real chocolate.

Amy: Right. Right. If it tasted like rotten eggs, I would be like, maybe it's working.

Whitney: Oh, then I definitely wouldn't. Mm-mm, I wouldn't do it.

Amy: But then you wouldn't want it. I know. Mine is getting low, my Glutaryl, and I'm like, am I going to order more?

Whitney: Reorder? Let me ask you this: Where you've been spraying it, does that skin seem better than areas that you're not spraying on it?

Amy: No, it seems fine. Seems normal.

Whitney: Because if it's face if he gave you face cream, wouldn't that be like it's going to do something topical or

Amy: It's a good point.

Whitney: Yeah, I don't know.

Amy: I don't notice anything great about that skin. Do you want to look at it?

Whitney: Oh, yeah, let me see it. I'll have to say, though, your skin

Amy: It's all around here.

Whitney: Well, I mean, it looks good.

Amy: I mean, look at look at all my stomach.

Whitney: I think your skin looks great, just in general.

Amy: Really? It feels a little it's like a little you know, wrinkly and stuff.

Whitney: No, but your the face Little saggy. The face skin for sure looks good.

Amy: I don't I mean, it would be cool if it just tightened up my abs.

Whitney: Here's the truth: You didn't keep a diary. This is what we should be doing, like if I'm going to try something new, I should keep track of like, "Oh, this is how I was feeling and why I wanted to try this," and then every week be like, "Still feeling that way, still feeling that way. Oh, I don't feel that way." Because like with my testosterone trip journey, I don't know now if I ever felt good, you know?

Amy: Yeah.

Whitney: Like So you don't know. You've been using it a year.

Amy: No. Yeah.

Whitney: And you quit drinking and you're sleeping better and you're taping your mouth.

Amy: How do we discern what's Yes. I'm doing it all. So how do you discern what's really helping? Like that's when people say, "Oh, what do you do to your skin on your face or whatever?" and I'm like, "Everything."

Whitney: That's the hard part. I know. Everything. Yeah.

Amy: You know? It it could be a whole host of things, or a combination. I don't know.

Whitney: Yeah. Or just genetics.

Amy: Or genetics. Like so or my hydration that day, I don't know.

Whitney: But I do have to I do feel that because this is actually something that is in every cell in your body, and it acts as a little cleaner. Little imagine just like a little house cleaner in there named Gluta.

Amy: Gluta.

Whitney: Gluta.

Amy: Gluty Booty.

Whitney: -thione, wrong. Gluty Booty, no. Let's stick with

Amy: That was cute.

Whitney: Gluta. Anyway, and and that's their whole role. So taking more of it seems like, of course, there's going to be benefit.

Amy: It seems like.

Whitney: You don't you don't lose your words.

Amy: What do you mean? Yes, I do. All the freaking time.

Whitney: Oh, really?

Amy: It's getting bad. It's getting bad, like I'm really

Whitney: All right, well, I take that back.

Amy: But anyway, I want the I want the glowing skin. With what you're saying, though, it just seems like it would be more beneficial in an IV and he told me it's not and I'm like and and like they're even saying like it's better topical, which just doesn't make sense to me. Why wouldn't it be better in an IV no matter what, right? Like

Whitney: It would. Right.

Amy: put it in my bloodstream direct and then like

Whitney: But maybe it's not supposed to be in your bloodstream. I get confused anyway, because like I'm syringing myself and I'm like, "Where is this needle putting this?" Like

Amy: Or not that. I know. You're syringing yourself?

Whitney: Yeah, I've done Well, well, I'm about I haven't tried started it yet, but like I'll do like peptides, you know. I'm about to do the glow up peptide. We'll have to Let me write that down.

Amy: Please.

Whitney: I haven't started it yet, so because I wanted to come back from my trip, because you have to take it like 30 days in a row. You're you're going to be shooting it in for 30 days.

Amy: I want this.

Whitney: Yeah. I know, it's the glow up peptide.

Amy: We are not to get overwhelmed. Are you just going to be glowing, so we can't even look at you? Am I going to have to dim the camera setting?

Whitney: I think that's what's going to happen. Well, we'll see, because right now, not doing it. Not taking the glow up peptide, nothing.

Amy: You look You look pretty glowy, though.

Whitney: I don't feel glowy.

Amy: Really?

Whitney: No.

Amy: Oh. You don't feel glowy?

Whitney: I don't. I feel like my skin is dull.

Amy: Mhm, I can relate. I can relate.

Whitney: Yeah, but it's all relative. You know? We're our worst enemies, worst critics.

Amy: I think your skin looks good, though. But

Whitney: Thank you.

Amy: but I get it. I know what you mean. I I feel like that a lot of times, too, so.

Whitney: Yeah. And then I have freckles, which can be confusing. It's like, is that a freckle or is that old age?

Amy: Yeah, an old age spot.

Whitney: Mhm. But anyway, I I'm sorry, I got us off of the topic,

Amy: I don't care, I don't care.

Whitney: but but yeah, I don't know. I don't know when I when I will give you know, or like when my sister will do those shots, the tirzepatide or whatever, those shots. Like you're just putting it into your stomach, where's it going?

Amy: Where is it going?

Whitney: How does it get where it How does it know?

Amy: I don't know.

Whitney: I feel like the skin is like an easier, slower process, I don't know.

Amy: You know what, we should We should do more research

Whitney: That's our list. Add that to our list.

Amy: We're going to look into that and what happens when you subcutaneously inject something. Okay.

Whitney: Okay. What happens? Yeah.

Amy: So look, here's the net net. It is central to your antioxidant defense network, okay? Okay.

Whitney: I like it.

Amy: So the body can actually make glutathione.

Whitney: Yeah, it's in every cell.

Amy: BYOG.

Whitney: BYO

Amy: Yes, that's right, it is. So

Whitney: Here.

Amy: how can you do that? So oral has poor bioavailability because of its peptide structure, so there's that, right? Digestive enzymes tend to break it down.

Whitney: Oh, oral, okay.

Amy: Okay?

Whitney: Yeah, in the stomach. Yes.

Amy: Oral, I mean, sometimes people get a little bit of results, but

Whitney: Why are they even making that then?

Amy: No shit.

Whitney: That's so frustrating, because this by the way, it's not cheap. It's not like I just spent 10 bucks on a chocolate mint.

Amy: Right? How much was it?

Whitney: I don't remember, but it was probably like 60 a bottle, like a little bottle. I don't know, I'll have to go back and look, but it's not cheap.

Amy: No. All right. And so you can do intramuscular, which is like a little shot, right?

Whitney: That's the shot, yeah.

Amy: Intravenous, which is the IV, or under your tongue, of course. Injectable and if you do those IV and stuff, it'll bypass digestive breakdown, which is probably good, right?

Whitney: Mhm. Yeah.

Amy: So those are used like, I said, like if you're going to get an IV and you want to put it in or something like that.

Whitney: Right. Right.

Amy: So there's also, of course, topical, right, and inhalable.

Whitney: Yeah, I did read about inhalable. A lot of things are becoming inhalable. Just squirt it up in your nose.

Amy: Mhm. So this doctor had tried that as well, but the doctor that I interviewed, and he swore by transdermal, that's why I've been doing that. And so I don't know. The the research for that is not the greatest.

Whitney: It makes sense, though, because like your nose is is actually supposed to be keeping things out of your body. It's trapping things. And same thing with your stomach. Nothing's being trapped right now, I don't think in either one of our noses, but you know what I'm saying? Like that part of it's this is a defense mechanism, this nose. And same thing with the stomach, it's going to let some things get out into the world and some things are going to be shot straight out of the body.

Amy: No shit.

Whitney: Uh-oh.

Amy: And you know, it depends on what you ate that day or that

Whitney: Well, that's true.

Amy: 24 hours. I mean, like there's so many things to consider.

Whitney: That's another thing that Yes, when you take something is really important. I keep forgetting that I'm supposed to take my thyroid medicine on an empty stomach before the rest of my supplements.

Amy: Oh, what?

Whitney: I don't I don't know why.

Amy: Whitney. That should be just when you wake up, you take it.

Whitney: I do, but I have all of my I have all of mine in a pill, you know, I I for the week in my little pill container, I have all of them for for that morning, you know?

Amy: How long have you been taking this thyroid medicine?

Whitney: Why? Is it that bad?

Amy: Oh, my god. I've been doing it for 10 years and like I am in a habit. Like I take my pill every morning

Whitney: Oh, 10 years.

Amy: on an empty stomach, but I drink coffee.

Whitney: No, no, no. I just I've been on it like 4 months or something.

Amy: Oh, okay, you're new. Oh, okay. Okay.

Whitney: Yeah. No, I'm new.

Amy: I've been doing it for over 10 years and my dose has not changed, but

Whitney: That's great.

Amy: yeah, it is good, but

Whitney: No, but I I get lazy, honestly. I've even To be honest, I forgot to take my supplements today.

Amy: You forgot to take your thyroid medicine?

Whitney: Yeah, everything. I haven't taken it yet.

Amy: You've got to take that. You've got to take that.

Whitney: What is Okay. Yes, I'm going to take it as soon as I get home, 30 minutes before the rest of

Amy: No, double up No, double up tomorrow. Double up tomorrow. Don't take it today. No, it's over for today. It's over.

Whitney: What? Why? I've derailed your gluta glutathione.

Amy: I don't care, we're going to have We just need to talk about this for a second.

Whitney: Wait, I have to double up on my thyroid tomorrow?

Amy: Double up tomorrow. Yeah, double up tomorrow in the morning on an empty stomach.

Whitney: Why? I haven't eaten anything.

Amy: You haven't eaten anything all day?

Whitney: Mm-mm. Not yet. I thought I was getting

Amy: It's 2:00 p.m.

Whitney: I thought I was getting something over here. I thought you were going to be making a little something, but

Amy: Well, I'm not. There's nothing. The glutathione special.

Whitney: No, I got sucked in, yeah. I got sucked in to some you know, college kid drama.

Amy: Okay, well then you can go home and take it.

Whitney: And then and then I had to come here.

Amy: Then you can go home and take it.

Whitney: Okay, good.

Amy: Yeah, if you haven't eaten.

Whitney: I haven't.

Amy: But if you had eaten something, I would say double up tomorrow.

Whitney: Well, damn. Then I haven't been doing the thyroid right, because I just take it with everything else and sometimes I've eaten and sometimes I haven't.

Amy: This could be why you're tired. Really? You feel tired? Yes, these are Is this for hypo or hyper?

Whitney: Oh.

Amy: Are your thyroid levels high, so you're feeling jittery and all that, or are they low, so you're feeling tired, like you have a hangover? Okay.

Whitney: I have no idea. No, I think they're low.

Amy: Then yeah, then you need to do what I tell you to do.

Whitney: Okay. Okay. I'm going to do Well, I like to do what I want. But this time, I want to listen to you.

Amy: Follow my advice.

Whitney: Okay. All right, back to the book report.

Amy: Back to this, so why is this important for people in our phase of life, our beautiful, wonderful, non-mid

Whitney: Back to Gluta. Our beautiful max life.

Amy: Yeah. We're going to think of a better

Whitney: Got to come up with something.

Amy: So obviously, we can have declining estrogen and all of that, so it's oxidative stress. And so we have higher levels of oxidated stre- oxidative stress, and so glutathione is going to help reduce that, right? That's good. They have done a study of women age 45 to 60 and found differences in glutathione enzyme activity between perimenopausal, postmenopausal. Anyway, it helped with sleep, that's the net net of that, too. Like helped with insomnia, so that's good.

Whitney: Right. Yeah, it is weird how you get insomnia. Do you get insomnia?

Amy: I just get it because I'm sweating.

Whitney: Well, I get it

Amy: I'm not It's not really insomnia, it's just like I don't sleep as well because my burning orb, I've told you about? Yes, I have a burning orb in my chest, so I sweat here and in my back, just like the orb.

Whitney: You're hot. Yeah.

Amy: And that keeps me from sleeping. Yep.

Whitney: Yeah. Super freaking annoying. So fun.

Amy: Mhm. So it's going to reduce metabolic stress. That helps, right? Detoxing, anti-inflammatory, we want all of that.

Whitney: Yeah. Yeah, inflammation is inflammaging.

Amy: It sure is, it's bad. That's not good. Boy, everybody hates that. So improved cell function, improved immune cell function, we want that. Better quality of life, they're saying. So generally speaking,

Whitney: It's not good. Everybody. Yes. Well, you're cleaning house. I mean, it makes sense.

Amy: You're cleaning house.

Whitney: Yeah. I feel really good when my house is clean and everything's organized and working properly.

Amy: The best.

Whitney: That's what this little Gluta does. Little little gluta-thyroid thyroid, sorry.

Amy: Well, Gluta-roony.

Whitney: Gluta Gluta-roony, Gluty.

Amy: I keep trying to go there, it's not working. So

Whitney: Gluta-roony.

Amy: there are scattered studies, but I feel like there's nothing that's like, at least when I've looked so, there's nothing that's like, "This works for that." You know what I mean?

Whitney: Right. Right.

Amy: It's just a little bit nebulous all over the place when it comes to gluta- glutathione supplementation. I mean, obviously, they don't they aren't even convinced on how we put it in our body.

Whitney: Okay. How it absorbs.

Amy: Yes. Yes.

Whitney: Is there a test for that? I wonder if glutathione

Amy: I don't know.

Whitney: Glutathione. Anyway.

Amy: I don't know. I don't know. So now

Whitney: Is there an app for that?

Amy: I know, can can I test my glutathione levels, right?

Whitney: I'm sure you can.

Amy: I don't have anything about that. So I don't know.

Whitney: All right.

Amy: Like even the doctor, I can't remember him saying anything about like, "See if you're low on glutathione." Like, no. You know, so

Whitney: Right. Yeah, I don't think it's in regular blood work.

Amy: Uh-uh, I don't remember it in my blood work at all. So that's an excellent question, though.

Whitney: Mm-mm. Thank you. Sorry that

Amy: I liked that question a lot.

Whitney: I wasn't listening.

Amy: So here's the final take: Is it worth it, right?

Whitney: That is the big question.

Amy: There is a lot of upside, so if the that upside is real, it can help, especially in midlife and menopause, because we have more oxidative stress and declining endogenous antioxidant capacity. I'm sorry to say that. Sorry, I'm sorry, right?

Whitney: That's Wow, that is a mouthful.

Amy: We have increased risk of all different things, inflammation, all that. So supporting glutathione, makes sense, right?

Whitney: I the the way I look at it is, like I said before, if it was already in our body and this and in our cells, and our cells need it, and as we age, we don't have as as much, we want to get some more of that in there.

Amy: Give it a whirl. Yeah. Give it a Give it the old Give it a swab. try. Give

Whitney: I don't know. Spray. Give it a spray.

Amy: It stinks, okay.

Whitney: But it doesn't the it's not like a perfume, though, where it stinks for a minute and then it goes away.

Amy: Right. I'd say it goes away in about under 20 minutes.

Whitney: Okay. I'm going to need to sniff it.

Amy: Yeah, you're not going to like it, girl. I can tell you that already. Evidence is not yet definitive, right, which I've covered.

Whitney: But the doctor on episode 192 said it's very important. He's dedicated his life to Gluta- Gluta-roony.

Amy: He is hardcore. Yeah. And his dad, he had like a whole story about giving it to his dad, and his dad living this long life, and all the stuff. So, and and recovering, and yeah, it was so it was really cool. You know, whatever.

Whitney: Ah. Take it.

Amy: Yeah, take it. Take it, and it is is practical. Now, you can use other precursors that can maybe make you up your own production.

Whitney: Take it. Okay.

Amy: So NAC, whatever that is, cysteine, glycine.

Whitney: I That's That's the that's the pre to NAD, I think.

Amy: This one I find interesting, sulfur-rich foods. So I don't even know what those

Whitney: That makes sense. Sulfur smells like rotten eggs.

Amy: I know. I know. What are some sulfur-rich foods? Hold on.

Whitney: I don't know. I hope it's not rotten eggs, cuz that Don't eat those. That's bad.

Amy: Sulfur, how do you spell sulfur?

Whitney: S-U-L-F-U-R, yeah. Rich foods. There we go.

Amy: I thought it might be S-U-L-P-H-E-R.

Whitney: Eggs.

Amy: Eggs, Brazil nuts, onions, legumes, broccoli. I eat a ton of broccoli.

Whitney: Brazil nuts, dairy products, seafood.

Amy: cruciferous vegetables. Mhm. Okay, so we've

Whitney: All right. Seven foods high in sulfur. Oh, wow, there's a lot. Cauliflower, kale.

Amy: Dried apricots, they love recommending stuff like that.

Whitney: Cheddar cheese.

Amy: Well, you've got some options too, so anyway, that I find that interesting. So, you know,

Whitney: Yeah, I like it.

Amy: B vitamins, like supporting yourself with B vitamins.

Whitney: But you know what?

Amy: What?

Whitney: You're eating that and it's going into your stomach. I mean, that's the thing that's so confusing.

Amy: I know, it is, it's so confusing.

Whitney: We're going to stick with the expert that wrote a book on it.

Amy: Well,

Whitney: No, we're not?

Amy: yes, but I just want to say like this one I don't know that I don't know that I feel so strongly. I am trying it. Do I think it's making a huge

Whitney: Yeah. And you've been trying it for how long?

Amy: I would say a year. I do it every every morning I don't do it when I'm traveling, so anyway, every morning that I'm home, I spray it on in the morning.

Whitney: Well, if you stop taking it or when you finish it up and you should like keep a little diary of like

Amy: It's a good idea.

Whitney: see if you feel any different once you're not doing it.

Amy: Okay. I I feel like I've got to write it down, because I forget.

Whitney: Yeah, we don't remember.

Amy: I'm like completely out of sight, out of mind.

Whitney: I'll tell you Well, I'll save it for a different episode, because I would like to talk about NAC, NAD.

Amy: Yes, I already wrote down NAD. We definitely want to do that.

Whitney: Yeah. Because I'll tell you about my

Amy: Boom, NAD.

Whitney: my experiences, yeah.

Amy: Good, because I don't know a thing about that.

Whitney: Oh, good, I'll do a book report.

Amy: You do the book report, okay.

Whitney: Deal.

Amy: So it does suggest that perhaps talk to a doctor about this.

Whitney: A nutritionist, or ChatGPT.

Amy: Poor Chat.

Whitney: My doctor.

Amy: Yeah, let Chat be your doctor, I don't have a problem with that. So so anyway, it's recommending all the foods, and good protein, antioxidants, like vitamin C and E, sleep, imagine that, exercise, reduce stress. You know, that was the thing that the doctor said at the end. He was like recommending all these healthy lifestyle habits, and I was like

Whitney: And you're like, "That would change Yeah, that would make a big difference, so maybe it's not even the glutathione. Maybe that's making you produce your own."

Amy: Right. I mean, honestly, maybe.

Whitney: And this is what we were saying in the very beginning on the first episode, like we're going to do what we want. We're going to do what we want, we're going to do what we can, and if you have good relationships, getting good sleep and you eat good, real food, you're already doing enough.

Amy: I mean, you're way ahead of the game.

Whitney: You really are. This is just extra stuff because you just want to see what the new trends are.

Amy: Yeah, so this one I just I mean, like I feel like a final verdict is, meh.

Whitney: Yeah. Not a thumbs down, but not a thumbs up.

Amy: Right. It's not

Whitney: But you're still committed to it, so.

Amy: I'm committed till this bottle runs out. It's lasted a long time.

Whitney: You know what Maybe it's gone bad, but how would you know? Because it smells like rotten eggs.

Amy: It starts to smell good, you're like, "Oh."

Whitney: Yeah. Ooh.

Amy: "This smells good now, this's got to be bad." So yeah, so that's my final take.

Whitney: All right. All right, well, thanks for doing the research.

Amy: Yeah, you're welcome. Do you have a midlife moment?

Whitney: That's what we're here for, folks. My midlife moment was I so it's interesting, because I'm not really taking testosterone right now, but I have had a very short fuse this week.

Amy: Mhm. Is that so?

Whitney: Yes. With the sweetest people.

Amy: Even better.

Whitney: You know?

Amy: Not with a bunch of assholes, well then and that's one thing.

Whitney: Right. But like just a sweet old woman and I wanted to smack her in the face.

Amy: What happened?

Whitney: She was just walking so slow and I was trying to get my She was doing nothing. I was irritated. I had some irritability. And it came out of nowhere, like a flash,

Amy: All right, she was walking. Mhm.

Whitney: and I immediately felt terrible. I mean, I didn't say anything or push her down or anything, but it was just like a quick, you know, heat up my whole body of just like anger. For a sweet old lady.

Amy: Well, for me sometimes it's just like, where is your situational awareness? Like like scoot over a little or something, like get aware.

Whitney: Yeah. Right. Right, and it wasn't like, you know, she I mean, yeah, it was just clueless. Read the room, lady.

Amy: Yeah. It could be your hormones, could be something going on with you, but also,

Whitney: So mean. It was the old lady's fault.

Amy: we did we did do an episode on signs, and I feel like sometimes

Whitney: Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Amy: it's like life telling me to just slow down a bit.

Whitney: I totally agree with that. It that absolutely. I always like if a car cuts me off or something, I'll be like, maybe I was about to get into an accident and, you know, life is slowing me down. But no. This That's fine, but why the the like rush of anger? It was I was I was like, "Oh, that was scary. Where did that come from?" It was just a sweet old lady, you know?

Amy: Maybe she was a bitch, we don't know.

Whitney: Right? Yeah, maybe.

Amy: I mean, maybe not, you're making judgments that she was sweet, you don't even know. Just a neutral older woman walking.

Whitney: It's true. I don't know. No idea. That's right. I did not act on it, I didn't do anything. I didn't kick her or, you know, spit in her face or anything, but

Amy: What? Oh, my god.

Whitney: Well, I know, so I didn't take it to the next level. But irritability, that was my midlife moment.

Whitney: Yeah. Yeah, how about you?

Amy: Well, I want to share something that's not exactly a midlife moment, but it's something I do to exercise my intuition.

Whitney: Oh, okay. Great.

Amy: Okay? So I know you play the Wordle.

Whitney: Yes, I do.

Amy: I too play the Wordle, very much enjoy the Wordle.

Whitney: Yes, love a good Wordle.

Amy: So do you sit with the Wordle and tune in to what you feel for the word?

Whitney: Yes. Well, I don't do it every time. Sometimes I'm like and you you've started to send me your Wordles, and I have a friend that sends

Amy: I got one in two the other day.

Whitney: Yeah, that was good. And I was on a plane, and like my so my friend also sent me and she got it in two, and I got it in four. And I was on a plane, and if you didn't guess, the word was "plane."

Amy: The word was "plane"?

Whitney: Yeah, that was the word. And I was actually on a plane and y'all weren't. But anyway, that's hilarious. Yeah. No, I do will sit even yesterday, I was sitting with it and like, what's the first word that comes to mind? And I don't always go with it, cuz I really want to win, you know? And my friend is always sending me what she gets, so I always want to beat her.

Amy: Does she operate by intuition as

Whitney: No, she has the same word that she starts with every time.

Amy: Really? What's her word?

Whitney: I'm not I think it's like "least" or "stale" or something with all of those letters.

Amy: Hmm, that's pretty good. I like "ready." I like "ready."

Whitney: I used to do "adieu", "adieu."

Amy: "Adieu", always a good one.

Whitney: But it's interesting how many times there's L's and

Amy: Mhm. My voice teacher always used "piano." She was like, "One of these days, it's One of these days, it's going to be number one."

Whitney: Oh, yeah.

Amy: Yeah, and so no

Whitney: But I never get it in one.

Amy: No.

Whitney: Even when I'm using my intuition.

Amy: You You don't? I I can't remember if I have, I'll have to look at my thing, but I really just try to sit, and I can get the first letter. Like I would say my percentage of getting first letter is very high.

Whitney: Really? Really?

Amy: Yes. And I'll just sit and stare at the keyboard, and just kind of like And so I think

Whitney: Bring me the word.

Amy: I think it's a way to exercise your intuition and kind of just still foster like, "Okay, like let's just get in that flow state."

Whitney: Sure. Let's tune in. Let's tune in. Yeah, exactly.

Amy: Yeah, so that was my

Whitney: I love it.

Amy: tip of the day.

Whitney: Yeah, I like it a lot.

Amy: Come on.

Whitney: Tip of the day, mine was don't spit in an old lady's face,

Amy: When you're making judgments.

Whitney: which I did not do, but I was just so mad. Yeah, sweet.

Amy: Yeah, you might have if you'd known.

Whitney: I'm actually getting a little worked up about it right now.

Amy: Really? It made you that mad?

Whitney: It's just I I don't even know, just thinking about the yeah. Well, it goes back to what you feed.

Amy: Was she just oblivious?

Whitney: Yeah, she was just oblivious. She didn't know that I was trying to get by. She was just taking her damn time. We were in the grocery store.

Amy: Were you on a sidewalk? Ah.

Whitney: Taking her damn time.

Amy: People in the grocery store do that to us.

Whitney: And there's like a basket here, and a basket there, and I'm just like, I just needed to get

Amy: Wake up, everybody.

Whitney: my pumpkin seeds. "Get out of my way, lady."

Amy: I mean, we got like things to do. We got anti- oxidants to anti- That's right, that's right.

Whitney: Something like that. All right.

Amy: All right, well, if you have anything to contribute, please email us. It is anythingbutmidpodcast@gmail.com.

Whitney: Okay, and don't forget, you're anything but mid, and we do what we want.

Amy: Yeah.